Comments on: Obama and the white middle class, how to connect with and win them over if he can.. http://blackliberal.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/obama-and-the-white-middle-classhow-to-connect-with-and-win-them-over-if-he-can/ Just another WordPress.com weblog Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:43:23 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: sue http://blackliberal.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/obama-and-the-white-middle-classhow-to-connect-with-and-win-them-over-if-he-can/#comment-1803 sue Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:06:06 +0000 http://blackliberal.wordpress.com/?p=445#comment-1803 I think this is an interesting article. It makes me wonder why you support Obama, if you understand what middle class whites believe and why haha. But anyway, it almost seems too that you are saying Obama should decieve, in a way, that class of voters, just to get their votes. You are not proposing that Obama change his ideals that that voting class opposes, but to flower words in such a way to make those people forget he goes against their core beliefs. I know the election is over, but I though I'd comment anyway. It's an interesting article, and you presented it in a calm, unjudgemental way, which I appreciate as a white middle class Republican :) I think this is an interesting article. It makes me wonder why you support Obama, if you understand what middle class whites believe and why haha. But anyway, it almost seems too that you are saying Obama should decieve, in a way, that class of voters, just to get their votes. You are not proposing that Obama change his ideals that that voting class opposes, but to flower words in such a way to make those people forget he goes against their core beliefs.

I know the election is over, but I though I’d comment anyway. It’s an interesting article, and you presented it in a calm, unjudgemental way, which I appreciate as a white middle class Republican :)

]]> By: Obama’s tune up.. « conversations with an unapologetic black liberal http://blackliberal.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/obama-and-the-white-middle-classhow-to-connect-with-and-win-them-over-if-he-can/#comment-947 Obama’s tune up.. « conversations with an unapologetic black liberal Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:56:56 +0000 http://blackliberal.wordpress.com/?p=445#comment-947 [...] as I have said on numerous occassions and in earlier blogs needs to reach out and connect with this demographic on their terms and in their communities in [...] [...] as I have said on numerous occassions and in earlier blogs needs to reach out and connect with this demographic on their terms and in their communities in [...]

]]> By: Jon http://blackliberal.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/obama-and-the-white-middle-classhow-to-connect-with-and-win-them-over-if-he-can/#comment-648 Jon Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:04:50 +0000 http://blackliberal.wordpress.com/?p=445#comment-648 Patriotism as in empty symbols such as a flag lapel pin, not constantly talking about how his is an American story? Faith in God as in repression of non-Christians, not attending the same church for twenty years? Freedom as in being free to ignore one's fellow men and women if they have the wrong color of skin, not teaching and believing in the Constitution? "They don’t believe most people are deserving of handouts or charity in large part due to their immigrant backgrounds." Ah. OK, we're talking about fear of the foreigner, or some other self-pitying rationale based on looking down on somebody else. Yes, people who think like that do always need someone to pander to them directly. He already talks about people who work hard, who don't want handouts. It's a shame to hear that this fact, and all the other points that speak directly to the values you talk about, are not being heard. Patriotism as in empty symbols such as a flag lapel pin, not constantly talking about how his is an American story?

Faith in God as in repression of non-Christians, not attending the same church for twenty years?

Freedom as in being free to ignore one’s fellow men and women if they have the wrong color of skin, not teaching and believing in the Constitution?

“They don’t believe most people are deserving of handouts or charity in large part due to their immigrant backgrounds.”

Ah. OK, we’re talking about fear of the foreigner, or some other self-pitying rationale based on looking down on somebody else. Yes, people who think like that do always need someone to pander to them directly.

He already talks about people who work hard, who don’t want handouts. It’s a shame to hear that this fact, and all the other points that speak directly to the values you talk about, are not being heard.

]]> By: fullbodytransplant http://blackliberal.wordpress.com/2008/03/21/obama-and-the-white-middle-classhow-to-connect-with-and-win-them-over-if-he-can/#comment-647 fullbodytransplant Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:09:43 +0000 http://blackliberal.wordpress.com/?p=445#comment-647 Fascinating, and very well said. Here is our take: www.cheeseandcrackersforobama.com The speech was just the beginning. Fascinating, and very well said.

Here is our take:

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The speech was just the beginning.

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